It’s kind of hard to convey through the written word what kind of tone an interview might be taking on. After transcribing about a quarter of this, I realized I was using the old )laughs( indication a little more frequently than usual. The truth of the matter is that Devine was laughing at every question. And he was also laughing as he rattled off almost every single answer. Hailing from Bakersfield, California, and having been reared alongside P-Rod, Spanky, Mikey Taylor, and the rest of Kareem Campbell’s City Star prodigy showcase, Devine is melding nicely into the pro ranks. With a little brother hot on his tail, a looming TWS first-pro video part peeking over the horizon, and enough caps to start a decent sized junior softball league, Devin bestows upon our pages the ins and outs of living in happiness, or at least having some laughs along the way.

What lessons have you learned after a couple years in the pro leagues?
Basically, put that smile on those kids. I’m always smiling anyway ’cause I’m just enjoying life as it is )laughs(. But yeah, just to be cool with all the kids and go out there and have fun. Do your thing and don’t worry about what anybody else thinks and it’ll show to anyone who’s watching.

Has it ever felt like a job yet?
The skating doesn’t ever feel like a job. I can separate the two. Going on trips, having to be somewhere at a certain time, dealing with shoe stuff, actually drawing things for graphics and all that-it can feel like a little bit of a job. But the second I’m on my board I feel like a little kid.

You don’t ever show up at a demo and feel like you gotta force yourself to get out there?
I don’t like demos that much-I’m not gonna lie )laughs(. That part is kind of stressful. But once you get going and you see the kids are hyped, it gets easier.

Who holds the most chips in the industry?
I gotta hold my companies down, so I’m gonna say Chocolate and DC, man. They’ve done so much for me and I feel like I’m in the best place I could possibly be right now. Everybody else is doing good, too. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t wanna hate on nobody. But for me, my sponsors hold the best hand. Chocolate is doing it for me, DC is doing it for me, and that’s all I know.

How do you feel about having a spot in the new TWS vid?
Oh man. It’s a dream come true. I never thought that sh-t would happen to me. Being in a TransWorld video is a crazy one.

Do you feel any pressure for it?
Well, you’re in there with Peter Smolik, Clint Peterson, Emmanuel Guzman, and all those dudes, so there’s definitely a little filming pressure. But it’s gonna be a good video. Everybody in it rips. So I’m psyched to be a part of it.

This is your first real part since going pro, right?
Yeah. It’s pretty much my first real part. I mean, I had a couple little parts before, but this is kind of the banger )laughs(. The stakes is high. I’m definitely gonna put my best effort into it.

What’s your prediction for the order of parts-first and last?
I think Smolik should have the last part. I hope he does. That would be sick. Ever since The Storm (’99), I’ve had love for that dude. I hope he gets it. First part )laughs(, I’m gonna try, man. I got some heavy competition though. Those dudes are pretty gnarly-Clint and Guzman. They can skate anything. It’s gonna be tough, but if I could get in there first, that’d be tight. I’m not making no claims though. We’ll see.

How’s growing up in Bakersfield?
Man, B-Town-wakin’ up, skating all day, every day. Hanging out with my homeys there. FT-that’s my little clique that we hang out with. I got my bro there, so I’ll be skating with him. There ain’t too many spots, but I love what we got. People are cool and everyday life is cool. It’s a mellow place to chill. There’s not too much craziness.

How do you deal with 110-degree summers?
Oh sh-t. I was born and raised in it, so I’m used to it now. It’s getting kind ofrazy, though. They be pushing people down from Hunter’s Point and places like that to live there. It’s getting’ trife, man. You gotta watch out now. It’s like you can’t step on nobody’s shoe no more. You’re liable to get shot or stabbed. It’s craze out there. It’s cool though. It’s home.

What’s the best thing to come out of Bakersfield aside from yourself and K-Fed?
Oh sh-t )laughs(.

You guys are the town’s biggest celebrities, right?
Yeah, I guess. Pretty much. Nah, the best thing that’s gonna come out of here is my brother. He’s the up-and-comer now. Ya’ll watch out, he’s about to be the best thing outta there.

Coming up, did you look up to the Visalia scene or Fresno?
Nah. I had a couple hometown heroes right there in Bakersfield. My homey Kenny, this guy, Steve Hemmingway, and this guy Mike Pots. Those were pretty much the dudes who taught me how to skate and everybody kind of knew about ‘em. They were the hot sh-t in Bakersfield at the time.

You guys didn’t travel that much?
Yeah. Me and my homeys would take little trips. I was like 14 or 15, just jumpin’ in the van with my friends and growin’ up fast. Good times, man.

The Central Valley can get pretty country, right?
Oh man. I grew up in this part of Bakersfield literally called “The County.” Right across the way you’d see like cowboys walking up and down the way. You could see some gangster cowboys. You gotta watch out for those fools. They’ll trample you with their horses and sh-t )laughs(.

When is your ad with the Hubba girls gonna drop?
)Laughs( Man, I don’t know. I got a little girl back home again. I was free for a minute.

So you can’t be chompin’ the G-string like Braydon?
Ahhhhh, man. It’s tempting, It’s tempting. There’s some fine-looking Hubba girls. There’s some ugly ones, too, though-I gotta be honest. But most of ‘em are pretty fine.

But you’re keeping it real with your lady back home?
Yeah. I’m keepin’ it real with the lady friend back there. I ain’t one of those suckers.

Did it feel weird to turn pro over a lot of the older guys on the team?
Oh yeah. At the time, I was the last person I thought would ever go pro. I thought for sure Chris )Roberts( or somebody else, but not me. But now Chris is in there, so it’s all good. Those dudes make you feel at home, though. Even though I was surprised everybody made me feel good about it and they had all voted on it and all that. No one had no bad feelings or anything. But yeah, they had just put out that Hot Chocolate Tour (’04) and Chris killed it in there. But he waited, and it came.

Generally New Era caps equal bigger pants and a permanent iPod. What’s up with you?
)Laughs( I ain’t trying to follow nobody. I’m just tryin’ to keep it real and keep my own steez, man. I’m into New Eras. That’s the hot sh-t, you know. But I am who I am. Just such nice and comfortable hats. I wish I could get on there, have someone down there hook me up.

Do they hook people up directly?
Yeah. I want to say like Grant Patterson is on the team I think. Jody Smith from England. He’s on there, too. Somebody hook me up. They get like 50 hats a month or something. You don’t even know, I wish I was in there.

What would you start bidding at for your cap collection if you had to put it on eBay?
Oh sh-t. $5,000. $10,000. Those things mean too much to me man.

How many hats are we talking here?
At least a couple hundred. It’s an addiction.

Is Kareem going to comeback?
Man, I got all the love in my heart for that dude. He could step on a board anytime and blow your ass away. I bet he could film a video part right now. No matter how long it’s been since he’s skated.

I heard he’s moving into real estate or something?
Hell yeah. Anybody needs some houses, holler at Kareem. He’s always takin’ care of business. That’s one of the ways I learned my work ethic-just growin’ up watching him handle his. I think I learned a lot from him. He’s definitely a good entrepreneur.

When was the last time you thought about the future of professional skateboarding?
I just skate man. I don’t even really think about all that. I’m not even worried about the politics side of it. I know it’s definitely not doing as good as it was with this whole blank board deal, but I can’t say anything about the hardcore skateshops man. They carry our sh-t and support us, so props to them.

I interviewed Paul Rodriguez not that long ago and he was saying that his goal was first to get the board and then to get a shoe. Do you feel the same way?
Well, to be honest, my dream was just to be able to skate with all the Girl/Chocolate guys. And that came true so I’m just stoked.

You got some tough competition on those squads.
That’s what I’m sayin’ man. We got too many heavy hitters on there )laughs(. I’m not mad at it, though. I mean, it makes you a better skater, keeps you on point.

If you could pick any other job outside of skating, what kind of job would you pick?
Maybe being like a shoe designer, a real estate dude, a stockbroker, a moneymaker )laughs in background(. Hey, watch out dude )to dudes in background(, I’m tryin’ to do my interview here. Just put professional moneymaker, or how about professional money spender? That would be the job )laughs(.

What’s your approach to contests? Into it or shine it?
I shine ‘em. Eventually I want to get into that. You can have fun with it. Let the kids see you roll around. Sh-t, I got all these training facilities with Girl and DC, I might as well get good at that stuff.

We talked about your brother Everen Stallion for a second. Is he still in Bakersfield?
No. I think he’s down in San Diego right now. He’s living at the Mystery house just filming for the video. He’s trying to handle his business. He’s gotta get like seven tricks a week now. They got him on the Jamie Thomas program, man )laughs(.

What’s his sponsor lineup right now?
He’s on flow for Mystery, flow from DC, he gets stuff from Ezekiel. As soon as this Mystery video drops, everybody is gonna start trying to get at him.

Is he coming after you?
)Laughs( Some people might say that. We got different styles, but he’s up on me for sure. He might be over me right now, especially with the training facilities he’s got. He lives inside the warehouse. They have like a little hotel in there-beds, kitchens, showers, and then you step out and your living room is like a skatepark.

You guys are almost the same age right?
He’s a year younger. He looks older ’cause he can grow a beard. But he’s my little brother. That’s a little pressure too )laughs(. You got your younger brother trying to come up on you.

You’re gonna be washed up, man.
)Laughs( I know. Sh-t, next year I’m done. He’s takin’ my spot. I’m 22 right now, retirement is just around the corner.

You’re gonna be cleaning his pool in a couple years.
Oh man. Don’t tell me that ’cause you’re probably right (laughs).

What era in skateboarding gives you the biggest feeling of nostalgia?
’95-’96. Mouse (’96). Mouse days. That’s just something I could always look at and trip out on the vibe. I still watch that and like Trilogy (’96) every other day and never get bored of it. Skating is sick now, but it just seemed like people had so much love for it back then. Everybody rolled up in cliques and it was just mad love. You don’t really see that nowadays because you don’t really have the spots like Love Park, EMB, or the Pier where everybody can just kick it together.

Well, you guys are headed down to MACBA to meet Lee Smith in a second, right? That’s pretty much the kind of spot every town needs.
Yeah totally. Like the warm-up spot. You go down, talk a little sh-t (laughs). Then you just have some fun with your clique.

You and Lee are homies from back in the day right?
Yeah, City Stars days. I I learned a lot from him. He’s definitely a good entrepreneur.

When was the last time you thought about the future of professional skateboarding?
I just skate man. I don’t even really think about all that. I’m not even worried about the politics side of it. I know it’s definitely not doing as good as it was with this whole blank board deal, but I can’t say anything about the hardcore skateshops man. They carry our sh-t and support us, so props to them.

I interviewed Paul Rodriguez not that long ago and he was saying that his goal was first to get the board and then to get a shoe. Do you feel the same way?
Well, to be honest, my dream was just to be able to skate with all the Girl/Chocolate guys. And that came true so I’m just stoked.

You got some tough competition on those squads.
That’s what I’m sayin’ man. We got too many heavy hitters on there )laughs(. I’m not mad at it, though. I mean, it makes you a better skater, keeps you on point.

If you could pick any other job outside of skating, what kind of job would you pick?
Maybe being like a shoe designer, a real estate dude, a stockbroker, a moneymaker )laughs in background(. Hey, watch out dude )to dudes in background(, I’m tryin’ to do my interview here. Just put professional moneymaker, or how about professional money spender? That would be the job )laughs(.

What’s your approach to contests? Into it or shine it?
I shine ‘em. Eventually I want to get into that. You can have fun with it. Let the kids see you roll around. Sh-t, I got all these training facilities with Girl and DC, I might as well get good at that stuff.

We talked about your brother Everen Stallion for a second. Is he still in Bakersfield?
No. I think he’s down in San Diego right now. He’s living at the Mystery house just filming for the video. He’s trying to handle his business. He’s gotta get like seven tricks a week now. They got him on the Jamie Thomas program, man )laughs(.

What’s his sponsor lineup right now?
He’s on flow for Mystery, flow from DC, he gets stuff from Ezekiel. As soon as this Mystery video drops, everybody is gonna start trying to get at him.

Is he coming after you?
)Laughs( Some people might say that. We got different styles, but he’s up on me for sure. He might be over me right now, especially with the training facilities he’s got. He lives inside the warehouse. They have like a little hotel in there-beds, kitchens, showers, and then you step out and your living room is like a skatepark.

You guys are almost the same age right?
He’s a year younger. He looks older ’cause he can grow a beard. But he’s my little brother. That’s a little pressure too )laughs(. You got your younger brother trying to come up on you.

You’re gonna be washed up, man.
)Laughs( I know. Sh-t, next year I’m done. He’s takin’ my spot. I’m 22 right now, retirement is just around the corner.

You’re gonna be cleaning his pool in a couple years.
Oh man. Don’t tell me that ’cause you’re probably right (laughs).

What era in skateboarding gives you the biggest feeling of nostalgia?
’95-’96. Mouse (’96). Mouse days. That’s just something I could always look at and trip out on the vibe. I still watch that and like Trilogy (’96) every other day and never get bored of it. Skating is sick now, but it just seemed like people had so much love for it back then. Everybody rolled up in cliques and it was just mad love. You don’t really see that nowadays because you don’t really have the spots like Love Park, EMB, or the Pier where everybody can just kick it together.

Well, you guys are headed down to MACBA to meet Lee Smith in a second, right? That’s pretty much the kind of spot every town needs.
Yeah totally. Like the warm-up spot. You go down, talk a little sh-t (laughs). Then you just have some fun with your clique.

You and Lee are homies from back in the day right?
Yeah, City Stars days. I was like 15 and he was the older pro on the team. He’d give us some sh-t now and then. Coming back from Vancouver one time, I remember he grabbed Paul )Rodriguez( and was running around screaming some sh-t. I better not say any more (laughs). He’s probably gonna read this and come after me. Lee’s the man. I’ll leave it at that.

Who, in your opinion, dominates the Girl park the hardest?
Jereme )Rogers(. Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Koston, Howard, and Carroll in there, but Jereme’s gnarly. Sean Malto’s been killing that place, too.

I feel like that one Logic part you had around ’03 really pushed you up. Is that true?
Yeah. For sure. I was psyched on it. It might of put me on the map or whatever (laughs). Shout out to Logic.

What is the longest time you spent off a skateboard since you started?
About five years ago I got the craziest hot pocket and was out for like half a year. It felt like a year. Getting your tricks back can take a second. But it’s like riding a bike.

Well, some come back easier than others.
Oh yeah. I know what you’re sayin’. Nollie heelflip. That’s the killer. Anybody out there want to take me down in a game of SKATE-nollie heelflip.

Well, if it makes you feel any better Guy can’t do ‘em either.
What? Damn, now I know that dude is human (laughs).

What was the last trick you learned?
Nollie 540 bigspin flip. Some craziness.

Do you play any instruments?
No. I don’t follow all the trends. I’ll stick with my New Era collection.

Favorite brand of actual Chocolate?
Godiva, man. That’s the best sh-t right there.

All time greatest Chocolate rider?
Keenan Milton for sure.

Closing Devine quote?
Stay in school (laughs). Don’t be tryin’ to come to my hometown, man. I ain’t tryin’ to have no weirdoes where I rest my head. Nah, for real-keep skating. Always have a smile on your face and keep it positive.






. I was like 15 and he was the older pro on the team. He’d give us some sh-t now and then. Coming back from Vancouver one time, I remember he grabbed Paul )Rodriguez( and was running around screaming some sh-t. I better not say any more (laughs). He’s probably gonna read this and come after me. Lee’s the man. I’ll leave it at that.

Who, in your opinion, dominates the Girl park the hardest?
Jereme )Rogers(. Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Koston, Howard, and Carroll in there, but Jereme’s gnarly. Sean Malto’s been killing that place, too.

I feel like that one Logic part you had around ’03 really pushed you up. Is that true?
Yeah. For sure. I was psyched on it. It might of put me on the map or whatever (laughs). Shout out to Logic.

What is the longest time you spent off a skateboard since you started?
About five years ago I got the craziest hot pocket and was out for like half a year. It felt like a year. Getting your tricks back can take a second. But it’s like riding a bike.

Well, some come back easier than others.
Oh yeah. I know what you’re sayin’. Nollie heelflip. That’s the killer. Anybody out there want to take me down in a game of SKATE-nollie heelflip.

Well, if it makes you feel any better Guy can’t do ‘em either.
What? Damn, now I know that dude is human (laughs).

What was the last trick you learned?
Nollie 540 bigspin flip. Some craziness.

Do you play any instruments?
No. I don’t follow all the trends. I’ll stick with my New Era collection.

Favorite brand of actual Chocolate?
Godiva, man. That’s the best sh-t right there.

All time greatest Chocolate rider?
Keenan Milton for sure.

Closing Devine quote?
Stay in school (laughs). Don’t be tryin’ to come to my hometown, man. I ain’t tryin’ to have no weirdoes where I rest my head. Nah, for real-keep skating. Always have a smile on your face and keep it positive.